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@Are0h ok Donald Trump and Robert Mugabe have definite similarities. Also its totally fair to refer to European dictators of the mid twentieth century.

@alienghic Yeah of course. The both support white supremacy and work to continue it's legacy for their personal gain.

Yes, absolutely. That's where it originated.

@Are0h Mugabe was scarred by white supremacy and colonialism.

The Daily show clips show Mugabe speaking using the language of racism.

That anger he felt triggered his decision to engage in disastrous land reform policies of Zimbabwe, which led to local famines.

In families, children of abusers frequently grow up to be abuser.

I am concerned that societies may behave similarly.

So, just please be mindful of how you define in-group vs out-group.

@alienghic @Are0h Mugabe got involved in a deadly internecine struggle with fellow guerrilla leader and later his vice-president, Joshua Nkomo, which was along tribal lines.
He was also banging his current wife while his first one was on her deathbed.
He rewarded his clique, not his people, with land.
And he is a homophobic piece of shit. None if this alters the fact that he has endured racism all his life, which Trump hasn't.

@OutOnTheMoors @Are0h

I was worried about what happens if one gets power. There are many stories of revolutionaries who abuse power once they have it.

I realized those here on mastodon are so far from places of power to stop worrying about what they're doing.

@alienghic @Are0h You might be suffering from the Mandela effect.

@alienghic When a large number of people share a common, mistaken "memory".
Named for our late president, Nelson Mandela, who was a revolutionary but managed to avoid the pitfalls you appear to recall as the fate of such people when they gain power.

@OutOnTheMoors

I'd say its pretty easy to misunderstand such a situation based on half-remembered, biased news reports.

So do you have any newer references talking about how south africa managed to improve its treatment of black and still seem to be mostly a democracy?

I should probably be working right now instead of talking on a social network.

@alienghic I'm a journalist who has lived and worked in South Africa my entire life.
If you should be working, I doubt you have the time for all my biased life experiences about how things have changed.

@OutOnTheMoors 😀 I was fishing for a link to an essay I could read after work.

CrazyMyra @OutOnTheMoors

@alienghic Can't think of any essays offhand, but there's several good books on the subject.
None written by me, I hasten to add.

@OutOnTheMoors What are a couple of good books about how South Africa changed?

Though works that discuss resisting tyranny and/or successfully toppling autocracies while avoiding anarchy are especially relevant to me right now.

@alienghic
"Tomorrow Is Another Country" - Allister Sparks
"No Future Without Forgiveness" - Desmond Tutu

These are the two I'd most recommend for what you're seeking.

@alienghic
Tutu's book is crucial, I think, to understanding the best way forward for the US. There must be reconciliation, not triumphalism, to be able to address and fix the problems.